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  WT response to your letters?

  by Smiles in

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  have you ever sent letters to the wt society and if so what was their response to you?.

  did they send you an informative reply?.

  did they send you a smug reply?.

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  mrs rocky2

  Rocky wrote a letter 10/18/94 about the application of Luke 9:62. He clearly stated in his first paragraph that he was writing a viewpoint as a farmer, not a prophet. He was giving them the farmers viewpoint of the application of Jesus words regarding plowing. At the time, we were naive and still believed that the FDS was somehow connected to God. We received a three paragraph letter from them 11/09/94, rather quickly we thought. The bottom line was that his "observations as a farmer are of interest" and that the information would be passed along to those who "must decide what is to be published in the future." Here's the kicker. They wrote, "Of course, you realize that, until something may be published in the future, it is best to continue to use what we have already published on this verse regarding its meaning." As far as we know, the application of Luke 9:62 has not changed. We have not spoken about this to anyone. But now we have nothing to lose as Rocky was DF'd last month.

  We also sent a letter 08/31/97 for which we have not had a reply. In this letter we expressed our concern about the Kingdom Hall Construction in the US and the Int'l KH Construction based on information in 08/97 OKM and what we were experiencing locally with our KH remodel plans. We (and a few others) felt we should minimize costs locally so we could send the excess to the wroldwide KH building fund to use "uselfishly" in places overseas where they were meeting in the woods, no chairs, etc. Especially since the KH here at that time was no even 20-years old. It was in need of quite a bit of maintenance. We suspected this maintenance had been put off because of the desire of several of the body of elders to have a brand new KH. Bottom line - no answer. We finally called Brooklyn and were told that we could not donate through HQ specifically for other countries but that we could send the money directly to another country only if we knew someone who could receive it in that country. If we sent the money to HQ they would disperse it to the general KH Building Fund. (This could be its own separate topic.)

  Needless to say, it was about a year later we stopped going to meetings.
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  Inactive ones - new light.

  by unique1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i didn't go to the district convention this year.

  my mom however did and she sends out a daily text email every day.

  she asked all members of the email group to share their favorite part of the convention.

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  Hmm, interesting. I am inactive, my husband is DF'd. No calls from the elders or anyone else in the congregation, including hubby's brother, my brother, my dad. They didn't even bother calling to tell me my hubby was DF'd. I guess I must have a reputation for an "apostate state of mind" or maybe I just faded away into oblivion.
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  The next cover-up or scandal?

  by kwintestal in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  my personal thoughts are this.

  with the population aging and with jw's becomming incresingly poor, there will be a lot more elder abuse, and i don't mean congregation elders, but elderly people.. does anyone know of this taking place in the congregations?.

  kwin

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  mrs rocky2

  I know of a couple in Oregon who have given a lifetime of full-time service to WT. They have no retirement. Their children all followed in their footsteps working part-time or in low paying service jobs. A few winters ago, this couple needed new tires for their car. They couldn't afford to buy them, their children apparently could not help either. This couple is well into their 70s. While this is not direct abuse I feel it is an abuse of sorts. People at this age should not have to worry about whether they can afford tires for their car. Oh, did I mention they are still working? They can't afford to retire yet.

  As for elderly abuse, I have seen only verbal abuse and know of one specific case. The wife is slightly older than the husband. He is an elder. Her health is declining. He has no patience for her needs. Anything that goes wrong is her fault. What's really sad is that the adult children can't do anything to stop the verbal abuse because this guy doesn't listen to the kids either. Breaks my heart!
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  JW are such Liars

  by Es in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my friend told me today that she had passed on to her friend my story bout being a jw and how now i dont have any support since leaving the borg mainly coz im marrying a "worldy" person and how my parents dont really have alot to do with me now.

  anyway jw's came to this ladies door this week and she plainly stated that she is not interested but they kept hounding and so she said im not interested in a religion that can shun family members for not marrying in your religion, or not believing in the same thing, thats not what a loving god does.

  so these jw said "oh you must have the wrong religion we dont do those things"!!!

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  Lies? it's not lying, it's Theocratic Warfare!

  Trevor - we too put a letter to the editor in our small town after we were quite publicly shunned away from Rocky's nephew's graduation reception. This little town's population is only about 1500 people. The step-nephew is not a JW. His date that day was my non-JW best friend's daughter. They were quite surprised we didn't attend and asked why. I don't think the community will put up with lying in this case. Many in the community are not going to be receptive to the JWs knocking on their doors!
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  Can't wait to see that judgemental blank look on my parents face

  by misguided in

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  2. friends

  when i tell them my daughter got the letter in the mail yesterday that she's been accepted to that spiritually-killing, immorality-laden place called the university of british columbia for fall studies!

  she's so excited, as am i!.

  rose

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  Awesome! my cousin's daughter, who is from Tokyo, Japan, is starting her second year at UBC as an international student. Best wishes to your daughter!
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  Putting on the new personality

  by mrs rocky2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember sitting through countless meetings, convention, and assemblies and having the scripture about putting away the old personality and putting on the new personality hounded into us repeatedly.

  in retrospect, it appears wt wanted us to give up any personality or individualism and conform to a new personality based on wt mandates and become a mindless drone.

  i am so happy to be free to be me and no longer driven by guilt to conform to a mans interpretation of god.. when we lose the right to be different, we lose the privilege to be free.

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  One thing to keep in mind, this change is a common thread among cults. It is always in the form of mind control, built on a platform of acceptable behavior and is kept in check with fear.

  I believe the 'putting on of the new personality' is part of the reason life after leaving the dubs is so difficult. To leave is to reclaim ones own identity, and individuality. ;It takes time to discover who you truly are apart from the b0rg and let one's creativity flow.

  So true - it is so insidious that this brainwashing is done under the guise of pleasing God. I know I didn't see it as brainwashing. If I had, I wouldn't have remained a loyal JW for so many years.
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  Elder says: Young People don't want to flip burgers to pioneer

  by truthseeker in

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  2. friends

  i approached an elder last week, and asked him if the society was against higher education because of the comments brought out in the drama.

  he said the society disapproves of higher education.. .

  he privately told me he disagrees with the view the society has on education - he said it should be a personal choice.. .

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  I would imagine there is a lot of conflict in some areas where brothers have been let go due to downsizing from what they thought were secure jobs. In the State of Washington a person can only stay on unemployment for so long. If he/she is considered a displaced worker, then the State will send that person to school, usually community college, to be retrained in another field. If he/she refuses to participate, unemployment compensation is discontinued. (My 40-something JW brother-in-law and my sister's best friend, also a JW and 40-ish, both have recently completed AA degrees from a community college, 2-year full time programs). So JW youth are getting mixed messages about education. It's ok to go to school if you are going to lose social benefits, but not ok if you are just starting out in your life.
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  Putting on the new personality

  by mrs rocky2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember sitting through countless meetings, convention, and assemblies and having the scripture about putting away the old personality and putting on the new personality hounded into us repeatedly.

  in retrospect, it appears wt wanted us to give up any personality or individualism and conform to a new personality based on wt mandates and become a mindless drone.

  i am so happy to be free to be me and no longer driven by guilt to conform to a mans interpretation of god.. when we lose the right to be different, we lose the privilege to be free.

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  This personality change we were encouraged to make encompassed every part of our lives - work, home, not just at JW functions. I tried so hard to conform and for a while I think I made a fairly good show. But it required so much effort, much more effort than putting on the 'professional face' for work. I don't think it is natural to suppress the creative spirit. But then again, there isn't a lot of creativity required to be a window washer, janitor, housekeeper, bus driver....
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  Putting on the new personality

  by mrs rocky2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember sitting through countless meetings, convention, and assemblies and having the scripture about putting away the old personality and putting on the new personality hounded into us repeatedly.

  in retrospect, it appears wt wanted us to give up any personality or individualism and conform to a new personality based on wt mandates and become a mindless drone.

  i am so happy to be free to be me and no longer driven by guilt to conform to a mans interpretation of god.. when we lose the right to be different, we lose the privilege to be free.

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  Resistance is futile. You will be absorbed. You are so right on! Maybe that's why they didn't want us to go see the Star Trek movies !?!
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  Funny little story to share with my fellow pet lovers…

  by jeanniebeanz in

  1. social
  2. family

  dumb-dumb the cat has become the neighborhood sweetheart.

  it is common to see little neighborhood children and adults alike stoop to pet him in passing.

  he often makes the rounds in the evenings, going from door to door in the complex and saying hello through any open doors.

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  mrs rocky2

  Did I mention they were yellow bellied weasels? Kinda pretty, nice soft fur, but mean little guys...kind of like the body of elders that DF'd Rocky.